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13 August 2008

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Thanks for posting this. I have my own set of books I read but don't write about, for various reasons, so my thanks is partly for that. Also, I am an Episcopalian and happy to be an Episcopalian, and while I have not an evangelical bone in my body, I sometimes find that it's good to talk to other religious people, because it turns out there are a lot of things with religious people despite the differences in our denominations (or even faiths). . . which reminds me that readers interested in the bit about workers' rights above may also be interested in Interfaith Worker Justice (iwj.org), which points out that a LOT of religions and denominations support workers' rights.

Laura,
My pleasure. Sometimes we have to keep a little for ourselves between us and the books, don't we?
I'm with you. I think workers' rights is something we can all agree on. Of course, why we can't all agree just to agree that we can have different religions has always stymied me too. What, is that too easy? Sad.

Thanks for the IWJ link. Very interesting, and inspiring.

You really ARE a communist, aren't you? ;)

Not that I have problems with communists. I actually like them, especially since I'm a bit of a socialist.

Strangely enough, I don't have a bone to pick with the Catholic church. Sure, the whole molestation scandal was creepy and, frankly, unsurprising, but I rather liked John Paul II. Or at least, what I saw of him on TV. (I suspect he was aware of what some priests were doing, but when your organization has 2,000 years worth of dough, I suppose you can afford such things, when it comes to hush money and settlements.)

I will say this, though: I was utterly disgusted when I went to my first Catholic service several years back. During communion, everyone was drinking from the same cup. Nasty.

And every time I think of Catholic services, I always picture the climax of "The Godfather," when Michael Corleone is having all his enemies assassinated while he "renounces Satan." Brilliant.

A literary aside: have you ever read "The Family" by Mario Puzo? Puzo believed that popes were the very first Mafia dons. Apparently, he drew a lot of inspiration for "The Godfather" from the policies and actions of popes.

Brandon,
The hilarious thing is that my voting record includes Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan. I once actually read AND AGREED WITH Ayn Rand.

Holy shit. Evidently people can change.

I know very little about Communism, sadly, as I paid very little attention in high school and I'm pretty sure they weren't really teaching anything in high school except the Civil War, which I found totally boring. I have always had the vague idea that Marx and Engels might have had some okay points, but they were WAY too optimistic about human nature. Everyone working together for the human good? Come on, did those guys ever observe human behavior while waiting in lines?

I have many bones to pick with the Catholic Church. Doesn't mean I want to chuck it. As previously noted, I also have many many bones to pick with democracy (or America's version of it) and capitalism, but I don't think they need to be totally chucked either. On the bright side, you're not obligated to drink the wine along with everyone else (next time just stride on by when they're offering you that cup of nasty). My god, I go home and scrub down after the peace handshake, you think I'm going to drink from the communal cup? Not bloody likely.

Anyway. Hm. I like the "The Family" reading suggestion. I might have to look into that--thanks!

p.s. the Michael Corleone bit is genius. I have a feeling old Puzo might have been well aware that church/religion sadly often equals total hypocrisy.

Admittedly, I'm not an expert on communism, but I do know that people (namely, Americans) often confuse it with Stalinism. (I know even less about Maoism, which is Chinese communism. And Leninism? This is getting out of hand!) Communism is sort of like Christianity in that there are a lot of different versions of it. Ultimately, communism is about forming a utopia, without government. Like peaceful anarchy, if such a thing can actually be achieved. (It can't, as you've already pointed out.) I suppose communism is ultimately self-defeating. A true communist government would never allow itself to exist, since, like I said, communism is about eliminating government altogether. People just aren't that good, and governments (or rather, the people who run them) will always want to stay in power.

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