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13 November 2009

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I am an aetheist and I like Carter a lot. To me he represents the good side of religion--unlike so many who think beating their self-righteous breast is all Christianity asks of them.

Hey, Thomas,
This is very good to know. I wasn't slamming atheists; it's just that I think his religion informed a lot of Carter's life and decisions, and I didn't know how that would play with an atheist crowd. I'm always glad to find another Carter fan.

I agree with Thomas - as an atheist myself, as far as politicians who speak openly of their religion go, Carter is actually quite palatable - did you catch his editorial about his split from the Southern Baptist Church over its treatment of women? That's the sort of critical Christian with integrity that I can get behind. These jerks who spout off about prayer and the lord and whatnot all while blithely devastating the environment and human rights, well, those you can keep. And man do we seem to have a lot of 'em!

My agnostic hubby likes Carter and his giving back to society. I like the way he says nuclear.

Hum? Do you have any one liners for librarians in your book?

Since you love Carter and Andrew Bacevich, I suppose Bacevich write about the malaise speech. Shorter Bacevich (an ardent conservative) Carter right, Reagan wrong.

If not here it is:

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/sep/08/00018/

Tripp: Thanks for that link. It was very interesting.

Oh, and CR, I didn't think you were slamming aetheists at all. And although a non-believer now, I was an active Catholic for two decades and know my New Testament--and how far most "religious" politicians are from understanding the historically accepted teachings of Jesus Christ.

Laura,
I have found this all very interesting. I thought maybe the mixing of religion and politics/government would be discomfiting to some--it is to me and I'm not an atheist--so I was surprised to read these comments (in the best possible way).

I did see the news story about Carter's break of opinion with his church and thought then, I love this guy. I felt that way when I finished "Palestine Peace Not Apartheid" too.

Yes, we do have a lot of spouting off types. That must be what people like in a politician, because they sure keep getting elected.

Tripp,
I do like Bacevich; thank you for the link. I'm going to read it tomorrow when I'm fresher. Weird, isn't it, how much the right and the left start to look like each other at the extremes? I find that very interesting too.

Thomas,
Politicians may know their religion, indeed, but I would agree with you that most of the basic tenets of those religions have passed them by.

Maggie,
I don't think I've ever heard Carter say nuclear!

I don't have any one liners; sadly. Nothing's worse than putting the pressure on people who aren't joke-tellers to tell jokes, so I rather steered clear of that area of advice.

Although I think I did share MY favorite joke:
Q: Why did the elephant paint his toenails red?
A: So he could hide in the strawberry patch!

and a close runner-up:
Cow 1: So are you worried about this mad cow disease?
Cow 2: Why should I worry? I'm a helicopter.

I really like Carter. As a man, if not as a president. We could use a lot more politicians like him. And as an agnostic, his religion has never bothered me. I think he uses it in just the right way: as something that he uses to inform his own decisions, but not as something he uses to batter others.

Rachael,
I have been very interested to learn how many non-religious types really don't mind Carter; I wouldn't have thought that, really. I think your description of how he practices his religion is probably the reason why.

Politicians like him would never get voted in anymore. I firmly believe we want a short-sighted, vote-for-the-money system, and that's the way we vote, so that's what we get. Sad, but I always return to the John Bowe quote: "the system is working exactly the way it was set up to work."

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