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13 August 2010


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Whaaa? Wait a minute. Are you pregnant?! Or did I mis-read that?

Not something I'm really interested in (childbirth or having children) but it sounds like a fascinating read. You've convinced me to add it to my wishlist! Too bad it isn't such a good book for if you're pregnant though, I could understand that!

Nope, your reading is right on--apparently I am expecting. Which is good, otherwise I'd be wondering why the hell I'm getting so fat! :)

I know exactly how you feel, oddly, although I am really pretty excited and thankful about this kid. I actually started reading this book a few years back, when the subject wasn't on my mind, and found it fascinating then, too. But as noted, I like books on medical subjects with a bit of an investigative edge, and they're harder to find than you might think. I think all women might find it an interesting read, as parts of it come down to questions of women's rights, as well as shortcomings in the American medical system (e.g. midwives hardly being able to function anymore because no one will insure them or else the malpractice insurance is too high).

I think I could handle this since I'm done having babies! I've gone through four births with no epidurals, and have noticed that the nurses really seem to push for one. Also, I was given Pitocin with 3/4 of my labors even though I was already dilated to 5 or 6. Hello? I'm already in labor! I'd love to read what the book might have to say about that.

I think you might find this book REALLY interesting. It might get a bit detailed for you (depending on how dense you typically like your NF) but there's lots you could skim over in order to get to the pertinent bits for you. What gave me a laugh (or not) was learning how quickly the birthing schedule fell into a Monday through Friday pattern as soon as doctors/nurses started "actively managing" labor and relying more heavily on pitocin. Of course it did! The overall point that a lot of times labor is now happening on a schedule that is not the mother's or child's but the medical establishment's is what I found really interesting. And good for you, going through it four times. I salute. you.

Hmm, not sure if I'll be having babies, but this sounds like an interesting read. I'm impressed you even considered reading it while pregnant--I might be too afraid of hearing horror stories before I had my first.

Too bad there isn't a picture book version of Hot, Flat, and Crowded. You'll have to settle for Three Cups of Tea at your baby shower...


First, congratulations! I thought the same as Angelique - "wait, what did I miss?" and even went back and re-read recent posts.

Some places do have midwives again, especially in the larger metropolitan areas. I really wanted one when I was expecting, but was told it wasn't an option. Wish I'd pushed more. If that's what you would like, you should start mentioning it at every opportunity to everyone you know, including librarians, and maybe you'll be agreeably surprised when someone comes up with just the information you need.

I had pitocin because they decided the doctor wanted to get out on the golf course (it was Sunday of a holiday weekend) and I'd already been in labor for 16 hours. Four shots. (one child) It didn't move things along at all and it was hallucination-inducing. 22 years later I still shudder when I think of it. I'd really love to meet those people again and educate them at the end of a hypodermic ...

If it's not being too nosy, when's your bundle of joy due?

I'm a little surprised there isn't a board book version of Friedman's "The World Is Flat." Give him a couple years; he'll figure out there's a market he's not exploiting with his hack writing, and he'll be on to it. :)
I would suggest this book even if you'e nowhere near or not interested in having babies. It seems more like a solidarity for women title than a birthing manual--and I never think it's bad to learn about the history of medicine. Sometimes it's both galling and enlightening to see where the field has been and how it developed.


Thanks so much for the congrats. I only slipped the announcement in last week so you haven't missed much.
Unfortunately, due to some issues, I have blown past any choice or ability to work with a midwife. This is what continually sticks in my craw about medical professionals--I distrust them, and yet I keep ending up needing them in important ways. It's very disconcerting (and humbling) to be thankful to a profession that gives you the heebies. I have, overall, received very good care and am thankful for it, and am thankful I am in a position to have insurance. So many thanks...but still a little resentment. How petulant am I?
I'll BET you'd like to meet some of those people from your labor with some needles of your own. FOUR shots? That. Is. RIDICULOUS. I'm sorry you had that experience--and I think you'd really appreciate this book.

You're not being too nosy but I'm not good at sharing details I'm not really sure about (see "issues," above, making things a little vague). I will say this: due date is soonish. Further bulletins as events warrant!

The book sounds interesting & my baby-having days are behind me. I went through childbirth only once and quite a long time ago. Since then, I have had an aversion to childbirth scenes in movies.

Anyhoo - congrats! Canyou picutre all of us going back to re-read your post? Funny.

Gah! I totally skipped over the most important paragraph of your big announcement and went right to the video of that fantastic song. That's what I get for speed reading! Congratulations! I look forward to hearing more about Citizen PreReader. Btw, Dr. Karp's Happiest Baby on the Block (on DVD) saved my bacon. Just sayin'. It's not advice or anything. :)

I have a friend who just hired a doula and she's also taking hypnobirthing classes. She wants someone to advocate for her in the delivery room...doctors here in Korea are quick to do c-sections, inducing, kicking the father out of the delivery room...all that lovely stuff.

Even without giving birth I have always had an antipathy toward birthing scenes in TV and the movies. Talk about giving men the wrong idea--push and scream for five minutes and then you're done, and here's the perfectly clean baby!

Angelique, well, in all fairness, that Dan Wilson song was worth skipping to, wasn't it? Thanks for the congrats. Now, Dr. Karp. Is he the swaddling and shushing guy? I think we saw him on a tape, seemed like pretty good tips.

I don't know whether I'm sad or reassured to hear that doctors are much the same all over...I wish your friend luck!! It never hurts to have an advocate--if not two--in medical rooms with you. I've noticed that medical personnel love to dump info on you when you're either without underwear or in pain or still drugged from a surgery, and then run from the room, never to be seen again. And none of those scenarios find you in your best state of mind to ask questions. So having someone around who can--priceless!

Congrats to you Sarah!!
I agree, these books are not great to read while you're pregnant!
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I just had my second son 4 weeks ago (which is why I am just catching up with my blog reading now...) and I'm fascinated by all the different takes on everything out there having to do with birth and parenting. (just wait until you get all of the differing views on breastfeeding, sleeping, etc etc etc!!!)

Thanks, Rebecca!
I just read another novel about birth and childbirth--Joanna Kavenna's "The Birth of Love," and it was fabulous. But again? Probably not the smartest timing.

Congrats to you on the arrival of your new son!! I hope you are feeling well and everything's good with the baby and your first child and whole family. Now stop reading blogs and get some sleep already. :)

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